1 00:00:03,050 --> 00:00:01,490 pretty even it's good to be with you Deb 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:03,060 and Heidi Hollis is on with us we're 3 00:00:05,869 --> 00:00:04,650 gonna have a very good guest and Julia 4 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:05,879 sellers she's had out-of-body 5 00:00:10,009 --> 00:00:08,160 experiences and well I've had 6 00:00:13,549 --> 00:00:10,019 out-of-body experiences and weirdly 7 00:00:15,709 --> 00:00:13,559 enough and I'm here I mean it's it does 8 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:15,719 happen people it's not you know didn't 9 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:17,520 it committed nonsense it just happens 10 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:19,680 and I'm glad it does cuz mine was very 11 00:00:23,950 --> 00:00:21,510 enjoyable we'll talk about mine later 12 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:23,960 but but now Heidi 13 00:00:33,410 --> 00:00:28,320 now there's all kinds of news and some 14 00:00:36,830 --> 00:00:33,420 of it is wretched and this I got this 15 00:00:39,650 --> 00:00:36,840 from Pam Geller she has that website 16 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:39,660 the Swiss Islamic Council has justified 17 00:00:44,959 --> 00:00:42,809 female genital mutilation and how they 18 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:44,969 justified I don't know don't really want 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:48,030 to know but it's it's supposed to be the 20 00:00:53,330 --> 00:00:50,730 best thing since helping your hair or 21 00:00:56,660 --> 00:00:53,340 something but house the Swiss can have 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:56,670 begun listen were me enough let them do 23 00:01:03,070 --> 00:00:59,250 it I don't know I don't know but that's 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:03,080 that's I mean that's people's are and 25 00:01:10,399 --> 00:01:07,650 the Democratic Oakland Mayor was figures 26 00:01:15,969 --> 00:01:10,409 it's in California tipped off illegals 27 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:15,979 to a nice raid name is Libby Schaaf and 28 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:18,540 she was commended by lieutenant governor 29 00:01:25,090 --> 00:01:21,299 Gavin Newsom like she did right now 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:25,100 Heidi if we ticked off some criminals 31 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:27,810 that the feds were going to rate him 32 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:32,369 we'd be in prison I'm surprised that 33 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:34,560 they are allowed to do that I'd be 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:37,439 nervous to tip somebody off you know 35 00:01:44,780 --> 00:01:43,170 that was yeah I know I mean I'm not 36 00:01:47,539 --> 00:01:44,790 trying to be cool to these people but 37 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:47,549 come on if you were in Mexico they would 38 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:50,729 not give you a tuna fish sandwich they 39 00:01:55,090 --> 00:01:52,950 would they might give you a thing of 40 00:01:57,289 --> 00:01:55,100 water and and kick your buck through the 41 00:01:59,300 --> 00:01:57,299 border that's what they do they wouldn't 42 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:59,310 say oh come here and we'll give you 43 00:02:03,469 --> 00:02:01,920 subsidies and kiss your foot and send 44 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:03,479 you to college and singing lullabies 45 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:05,040 they would not do that they wouldn't 46 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:06,960 care I've been down there with my ex 47 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:09,239 pseudo brother-in-law and there was this 48 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:11,340 poor Indian woman I mean I felt sorry 49 00:02:16,369 --> 00:02:13,590 for her she had a baby 50 00:02:18,020 --> 00:02:16,379 with her and you know he said cuz he New 51 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:18,030 Mexico real well he said see that woman 52 00:02:21,860 --> 00:02:20,400 I said yeah he said if she fainted from 53 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:21,870 hunger or something these slobs down 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:24,360 here wouldn't do a thing wouldn't stop I 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:26,610 mean in you know Texas or somebody 56 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:28,530 there'd be churches floating around and 57 00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:31,080 tops and you know everybody'd be trying 58 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:34,500 to help her right they wouldn't care if 59 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,330 you died right there on the street hey 60 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:38,400 they've done it here in Chicago where a 61 00:02:44,059 --> 00:02:42,209 guy got when you get hit by a car and 62 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:44,069 left in the street people stepped over 63 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:46,769 him okay and barely glanced out of but 64 00:02:51,740 --> 00:02:49,470 kept going so I mean people are cruel 65 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:51,750 everywhere I think I don't know not 66 00:02:55,339 --> 00:02:53,370 around here I mean that's one thing I 67 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:55,349 can say for this place is that if you 68 00:03:01,069 --> 00:02:57,840 had somebody with a baby and they you 69 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:01,079 know conk out from fatigue or hunger or 70 00:03:05,449 --> 00:03:02,840 something there being there be 71 00:03:09,259 --> 00:03:05,459 ambulances and I mean it would cause a 72 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:09,269 whole Civic stir around here now the one 73 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:11,010 I can say that about Texas then they 74 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:12,329 have their flaws but they're not bad 75 00:03:16,870 --> 00:03:14,760 about that yeah I mean they wouldn't 76 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:16,880 step over somebody at all around here 77 00:03:21,099 --> 00:03:20,040 and butts up there is one thing there's 78 00:03:23,629 --> 00:03:21,109 just one kid 79 00:03:25,250 --> 00:03:23,639 do you have racetrack gas stations up 80 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:25,260 your way I know where that chain had 81 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:27,780 made it up the Midwest or not it doesn't 82 00:03:33,229 --> 00:03:30,510 sound familiar and well they they may be 83 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:33,239 more of an East Coast than central place 84 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:36,329 but south-central but but what it is is 85 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:39,590 this one kid he's about you know Galia 86 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:42,690 22 or something and he has a little sign 87 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:45,329 that he needs money and stuff and he was 88 00:03:51,349 --> 00:03:47,930 out there 15 degrees and I'm thinking 89 00:03:53,629 --> 00:03:51,359 you know know how boy I mean how bad his 90 00:03:55,490 --> 00:03:53,639 life have to get you know and he didn't 91 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:55,500 have any real warm clothes he had like a 92 00:04:01,339 --> 00:03:57,690 hoodie which he know is enough to keep a 93 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:01,349 bird warm so I mean you do see things 94 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:10,590 like that but not crying a few homeless 95 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:13,889 here well I don't doubt it I don't doubt 96 00:04:19,339 --> 00:04:18,000 it at all there's this one guy who kind 97 00:04:22,850 --> 00:04:19,349 of lives in the neighborhood around here 98 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:22,860 sort of kinda is he works at Walmart 99 00:04:27,470 --> 00:04:26,430 every day and this sounds gruesome ID 100 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:27,480 but he sleeps 101 00:04:31,190 --> 00:04:29,610 a hotel like one day a week is all you 102 00:04:35,330 --> 00:04:31,200 can afford he sleeps under bridges the 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:35,340 other days that's sad I mean Heidi and 104 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:38,250 this guy's got a regular job I'm 105 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:40,500 thinking holy moly that's I mean that 106 00:04:46,910 --> 00:04:44,250 that's I mean I don't know over here 107 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:46,920 Chicago mental illness and dependency on 108 00:04:54,530 --> 00:04:49,110 drugs and alcohol are the big culprit 109 00:04:56,510 --> 00:04:54,540 over in California that rents out of 110 00:04:59,900 --> 00:04:56,520 control in California here that's the 111 00:05:04,100 --> 00:04:59,910 big thing well I mean California's a 112 00:05:08,330 --> 00:05:04,110 bizarre you know horror story place 113 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:08,340 anyway you know sell it back to Mexico I 114 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:14,730 wouldn't even I don't love California if 115 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:16,080 it ain't between New York and Virginia 116 00:05:21,140 --> 00:05:18,560 you know I don't care about it you know 117 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:21,150 really but then that I'm prejudiced like 118 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:22,770 yes little bit of Florida's all right 119 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:25,170 you know basically between New York and 120 00:05:31,970 --> 00:05:29,490 Virginia that's all what's up now here's 121 00:05:35,030 --> 00:05:31,980 a here's a you know a positive story for 122 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:35,040 a change and I got this actually for the 123 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:37,920 coast Coast AM website but in cordoba 124 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:41,130 argentina they had an image of the 125 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:44,850 virgin mary show up on a background and 126 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:46,650 it was a detailed image you can see it 127 00:05:53,330 --> 00:05:50,910 right up on the coast website and they 128 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:53,340 had a director of the military hospital 129 00:05:58,910 --> 00:05:56,730 at cordoba said it was a manifestation 130 00:06:00,560 --> 00:05:58,920 of the mother of god period and this guy 131 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:00,570 was you know not some kind of idiot he's 132 00:06:04,730 --> 00:06:02,490 director of the hospital and you could 133 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:04,740 see it is it's not indistinct or 134 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:06,210 something mercury I mean it just 135 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:08,010 happened and you know of course we've 136 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:10,490 had we've had shows that have dealt with 137 00:06:15,260 --> 00:06:13,320 you know like the tale of Juan Diego and 138 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:15,270 Mexico you know and these things are 139 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:17,430 real deals they're as real as the you 140 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:19,970 know the hair on your arm you know and 141 00:06:25,130 --> 00:06:23,370 it's it's really amazing but you could 142 00:06:28,070 --> 00:06:25,140 go the coast website and see it it's 143 00:06:30,770 --> 00:06:28,080 really a very distinct image and it just 144 00:06:36,620 --> 00:06:30,780 showed up yeah I mean no really good 145 00:06:40,010 --> 00:06:36,630 reason or is sick he likes to pick on me 146 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:40,020 well he's got a book everybody has been 147 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:41,490 ten or twelve years you know 148 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:45,490 you were overdue I guess but now there's 149 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:47,410 been a dramatic increase in Exorcist 150 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:51,520 training by the Vatican Oh again yeah I 151 00:06:57,180 --> 00:06:53,500 mean I don't know what the heck is going 152 00:07:00,990 --> 00:06:57,190 on but they've galvanized the exorcism 153 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:01,000 program and I don't know I mean 154 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:03,130 especially in Italy and you wouldn't 155 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:05,650 think Paul Italy would be just run over 156 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:07,840 with demons or anything it's not that 157 00:07:12,090 --> 00:07:10,240 big a country and all that but there's 158 00:07:15,420 --> 00:07:12,100 demons having kittens over there and 159 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:15,430 we're all over them all over the world 160 00:07:21,780 --> 00:07:18,610 they've got that too so yeah but they 161 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:21,790 have sparked that up and I don't know I 162 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:24,910 really don't know well it is a crazy 163 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:27,520 life it really is but there is you know 164 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:29,650 happily there are good things too and 165 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:32,530 that makes it makes up for some of the 166 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:37,630 negative but Oh Heidi I mean it's it's 167 00:07:41,910 --> 00:07:39,610 so crazy compared to what things were in 168 00:07:44,940 --> 00:07:41,920 past years because you know back in the 169 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,950 day almost nobody nobody even when my 170 00:07:48,180 --> 00:07:46,720 father was like the Lord and Master of 171 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:48,190 Cambridge Maryland on the Eastern Shore 172 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:50,830 and you know we had 1200 people work for 173 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:52,630 him the electronics plant nobody was 174 00:07:57,780 --> 00:07:55,810 living like you know in the swamp or 175 00:07:59,490 --> 00:07:57,790 something and one coming into work and 176 00:08:02,160 --> 00:07:59,500 cleaning up once a week I mean everybody 177 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:02,170 had a car and you know a little place to 178 00:08:08,340 --> 00:08:04,080 stay I mean it wasn't like that 179 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:08,350 so that's scary that's scary it really 180 00:08:14,630 --> 00:08:10,660 is it really is but that's okay that's 181 00:08:17,070 --> 00:08:14,640 okay you know no long as you stay out of 182 00:08:22,770 --> 00:08:17,080 evil californium you're all right I 183 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:22,780 guess but I don't know but it has gotten 184 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:24,550 kind of expensive around here for some 185 00:08:29,250 --> 00:08:26,620 reason but anyhow we're just about ready 186 00:08:30,630 --> 00:08:29,260 to the top of the hour break and Julia 187 00:08:32,670 --> 00:08:30,640 sellers would be pretty good we've got 188 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:32,680 her coming up so we'll be right back 189 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:39,800 well let's be back with julia sellers 190 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:41,610 and she's written a book I've seen it 191 00:08:48,650 --> 00:08:43,200 I've seen it tomorrow 192 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:48,660 and basically Julia I guess it it talks 193 00:08:52,940 --> 00:08:51,330 all about your experiences with OBEs all 194 00:08:55,820 --> 00:08:52,950 this time in your life I guess it 195 00:08:59,390 --> 00:08:55,830 started early on it yeah well basically 196 00:09:02,900 --> 00:08:59,400 it talks about out-of-body experiences 197 00:09:04,850 --> 00:09:02,910 primarily of Michael my husband but also 198 00:09:09,380 --> 00:09:04,860 from I known you know autobot 199 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:09,390 experiences and yep I mean Michael I 200 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:13,529 mean he has started with his out-of-body 201 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:17,490 experiences pretty early I mean he you 202 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:21,839 know would have out-of-body when he was 203 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:26,130 really a toddler actually he I mean it's 204 00:09:32,269 --> 00:09:28,710 funny but I've you know he remembers his 205 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:32,279 own birth it's called the soul conscious 206 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:35,279 conscious birth oh yeah I'm not kidding 207 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:38,310 so he even remembers you know he 208 00:09:45,590 --> 00:09:41,850 remembers when he and I would say this 209 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:45,600 he was flown into the uterus of his 210 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:49,170 mother so basically you know he yeah he 211 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:51,570 was flown into the uterus of his mother 212 00:09:57,650 --> 00:09:54,210 it means that when his what religions 213 00:10:00,890 --> 00:09:57,660 call it soul but when his quantum of 214 00:10:03,079 --> 00:10:00,900 energy the vibrations and oscillations 215 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:03,089 you know it's an energy that the 216 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:05,370 religions would call a soul so he 217 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:09,450 remembers when his soul and tert entered 218 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:13,620 the fetus of his mother and it's just it 219 00:10:19,460 --> 00:10:15,750 you know he remembers his you know 220 00:10:20,540 --> 00:10:19,470 prenatal stage and everything and you 221 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:20,550 know auto body 222 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:22,800 yeah auto body experience as such 223 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:26,690 actually it's you know there's a 224 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:29,850 scientific research going on for a long 225 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:35,040 time now and the out-of-body experience 226 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:39,240 as such is basically defined by you know 227 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:42,770 science as as an experience in which a 228 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:46,790 person seems to perceive the world 229 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:49,150 around them 230 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:52,990 from a location outside their physical 231 00:11:01,650 --> 00:10:56,410 body so basically in an auto body right 232 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:01,660 the observer experiences a form of let's 233 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:05,160 say disassociation between the 234 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:09,250 perceiving self and the own physical 235 00:11:18,750 --> 00:11:14,650 body so you know we have some scientists 236 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:18,760 that have tried to you know to come up 237 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:22,390 with definitions that would include of 238 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:24,610 outer by right they would include you 239 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:26,560 know the person they would say you know 240 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:29,970 out-of-body is a perception of a self or 241 00:11:38,329 --> 00:11:35,529 sound a form of autoscopic body image 242 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:38,339 you know during the auto body experience 243 00:11:44,090 --> 00:11:40,770 so basically you would see a 244 00:11:47,850 --> 00:11:44,100 representation of your physical body 245 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:47,860 that would lay down on the bed right and 246 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:51,310 your consciousness or yourself would end 247 00:11:59,519 --> 00:11:57,130 up floating above you can yeah you can 248 00:12:02,940 --> 00:11:59,529 watch your physical body from the 249 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:02,950 ceiling or you can watch it from oh I 250 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:05,470 know it was weird it happened when I was 251 00:12:11,550 --> 00:12:09,190 my 20s in Atlanta and uh I was married 252 00:12:16,829 --> 00:12:11,560 and I saw Sue and myself on the bed you 253 00:12:18,769 --> 00:12:16,839 know and did it happen natural 254 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:18,779 spontaneously or did you like 255 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:21,370 spontaneously and I'd heard about it 256 00:12:25,380 --> 00:12:23,350 before and I was kind of felt kind of 257 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:25,390 empowered by like it was liberating and 258 00:12:29,550 --> 00:12:27,850 yes she was a bed hog and you could see 259 00:12:35,579 --> 00:12:29,560 she's trying to steal all the covers and 260 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:35,589 all that what happened was I realize mhm 261 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:37,570 and it was very liberating and I thought 262 00:12:43,019 --> 00:12:39,880 well this is cool I'll go to see my 263 00:12:48,660 --> 00:12:43,029 brother Doug in California and that's 264 00:12:51,810 --> 00:12:48,670 the Doug i'ma go to heaven I got scared 265 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:51,820 I figure I might not come back so I come 266 00:13:00,180 --> 00:12:57,070 back all you sharing that before Kevin 267 00:13:02,069 --> 00:13:00,190 that's interesting oh it was weird cuz I 268 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:02,079 could see very distinctly Sue and myself 269 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:02,960 and swine on the 270 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:05,600 bad you know and like where are you 271 00:13:11,110 --> 00:13:07,850 where were you watching yourself guys 272 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:11,120 like from from the ceiling or you know 273 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:13,990 because five or six foot above you know 274 00:13:19,510 --> 00:13:17,120 you know sometimes you can just go ahead 275 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:19,520 and leave through the walls you know you 276 00:13:23,530 --> 00:13:21,410 leave through the windows through the 277 00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:23,540 walls and you just continue on your 278 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:26,990 journey you know now you know a typical 279 00:13:35,170 --> 00:13:29,120 feature of an out of what experiences 280 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:35,180 that they you know the the experiencer 281 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:37,130 or experience sir 282 00:13:44,350 --> 00:13:41,690 you know they perceive they perceive 283 00:13:47,290 --> 00:13:44,360 that the Autobot experience extremely 284 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:47,300 real at the time of the experience right 285 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:51,710 so basically a you know out of our 286 00:13:58,110 --> 00:13:54,800 experience you know it can occur in a 287 00:14:00,990 --> 00:13:58,120 different context you know including the 288 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:01,000 near-death experience right there 289 00:14:07,150 --> 00:14:04,160 similarities between Autobot experience 290 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:07,160 and a near-death experience although 291 00:14:14,890 --> 00:14:11,510 when you are dying you can be sure you 292 00:14:17,860 --> 00:14:14,900 have out-of-body experience 400% but 293 00:14:21,010 --> 00:14:17,870 when you have out-of-body experience 294 00:14:24,730 --> 00:14:21,020 you are not necessarily dying right but 295 00:14:28,450 --> 00:14:24,740 again all people who are dying at some 296 00:14:32,910 --> 00:14:28,460 point in the process of a dying have to 297 00:14:35,530 --> 00:14:32,920 come out of body it's a must right so 298 00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:35,540 basically yeah 299 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:37,280 that with Michael you know with my 300 00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:41,090 husband it's funny because he would have 301 00:14:48,970 --> 00:14:45,380 his auto body accounts in a waking state 302 00:14:50,950 --> 00:14:48,980 you know in the waking active state so 303 00:14:52,990 --> 00:14:50,960 I'm the full consciousness right and 304 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:53,000 that would be occurring occur in both 305 00:14:59,470 --> 00:14:55,730 you know spontaneously mostly 306 00:15:02,410 --> 00:14:59,480 spontaneously or at will all right now 307 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:02,420 so let's say he would be sitting on a 308 00:15:07,390 --> 00:15:05,450 computer he would be drinking coffee he 309 00:15:10,750 --> 00:15:07,400 would be just walking on a street right 310 00:15:13,270 --> 00:15:10,760 now suddenly boom he would get out of 311 00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:13,280 the body and he cannot help it and 312 00:15:16,090 --> 00:15:14,480 that's crazy 313 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,100 it really is crazy the 314 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:18,560 have the experience that several 315 00:15:25,210 --> 00:15:22,850 occasions and I just I'm curious what 316 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:25,220 pattern that your husband sees or 317 00:15:29,949 --> 00:15:26,930 perceives when that happens to them 318 00:15:32,460 --> 00:15:29,959 because I draw my own conclusions about 319 00:15:36,430 --> 00:15:32,470 why that happens but not for myself 320 00:15:40,809 --> 00:15:36,440 because I get like told lessons when 321 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:40,819 this happens so your husband when he 322 00:15:48,370 --> 00:15:45,410 gets yeah I'll tell you I mean first of 323 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:48,380 all out-of-body experiences they have 324 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:51,889 levels to themselves so it means that 325 00:15:59,530 --> 00:15:55,970 you can have a basic form so-called 326 00:16:02,559 --> 00:15:59,540 lower form out of what experience when 327 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:02,569 you just leave your body find yourself 328 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:05,810 floating above the you know the bed or 329 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:09,529 the on the ceiling whatever and when you 330 00:16:17,650 --> 00:16:13,250 do that it does not mean necessarily 331 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:17,660 that you would do or perceive anything 332 00:16:25,059 --> 00:16:21,170 else you just watch yourself leaving the 333 00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:25,069 body you end up on a ceiling right but 334 00:16:34,059 --> 00:16:28,990 you can see your physical body right now 335 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:34,069 you can you can hear things happening 336 00:16:39,429 --> 00:16:35,930 behind the wall 337 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:39,439 so basically VAR get out of body and my 338 00:16:45,999 --> 00:16:41,930 house right I end up on the ceiling 339 00:16:49,150 --> 00:16:46,009 right I can listen to what my son is 340 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:49,160 doing on the first floor in the house so 341 00:16:56,259 --> 00:16:52,990 basically your ears become very 342 00:17:00,759 --> 00:16:56,269 sensitive you can hear people talking on 343 00:17:04,899 --> 00:17:00,769 the street right now you can see okay 344 00:17:09,309 --> 00:17:04,909 you it's called circular vision you can 345 00:17:12,730 --> 00:17:09,319 see 360 degrees around so you see in 346 00:17:14,199 --> 00:17:12,740 front of you you see behind you but you 347 00:17:17,890 --> 00:17:14,209 see on both sides 348 00:17:18,460 --> 00:17:17,900 it's called sir circular or global 349 00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:18,470 vision 350 00:17:24,220 --> 00:17:21,919 you see 360 degrees around can you 351 00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:24,230 imagine seeing in front it's seeing 352 00:17:34,719 --> 00:17:29,840 things that are already now you can 353 00:17:38,649 --> 00:17:34,729 smell things that you know so what I'm 354 00:17:43,779 --> 00:17:38,659 saying is that you're the the five basic 355 00:17:45,879 --> 00:17:43,789 human senses are intensified you can see 356 00:17:49,389 --> 00:17:45,889 more you can hear more 357 00:17:50,409 --> 00:17:49,399 you can smell more you can taste more 358 00:17:53,409 --> 00:17:50,419 okay 359 00:17:55,089 --> 00:17:53,419 you can smell let's say I get out of 360 00:17:57,639 --> 00:17:55,099 body and I smell roses 361 00:17:58,269 --> 00:17:57,649 I smell different flavors I smell 362 00:17:59,889 --> 00:17:58,279 vanilla 363 00:18:02,859 --> 00:17:59,899 okay now I'm looking around and there's 364 00:18:05,139 --> 00:18:02,869 nothing there's no roses there's no you 365 00:18:07,719 --> 00:18:05,149 know so you know I smell cigarette 366 00:18:10,899 --> 00:18:07,729 smokes all the time no one is smoking 367 00:18:14,829 --> 00:18:10,909 around me now you can you can yeah I 368 00:18:18,629 --> 00:18:14,839 mean you can if it's not around you I'll 369 00:18:22,509 --> 00:18:18,639 tell you what it is the the different 370 00:18:26,289 --> 00:18:22,519 different smells actually are different 371 00:18:29,589 --> 00:18:26,299 forms of information they are coming 372 00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:29,599 from different dimension and your nose 373 00:18:34,479 --> 00:18:33,679 your olfactory system is able to detect 374 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:34,489 them 375 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:38,089 right so when you smell weird things 376 00:18:43,869 --> 00:18:41,690 around you and you do not see anything 377 00:18:46,629 --> 00:18:43,879 right okay you smell someone smoking 378 00:18:49,239 --> 00:18:46,639 there's no one smoking there are roses 379 00:18:52,329 --> 00:18:49,249 there's no resident retinue but still 380 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:52,339 you you get the smell the roses it means 381 00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:56,809 that there are some entities from either 382 00:19:04,299 --> 00:19:00,320 asked her plane or above that are around 383 00:19:07,089 --> 00:19:04,309 you you can detect them and the form of 384 00:19:10,749 --> 00:19:07,099 smell okay and the smelling now 385 00:19:16,180 --> 00:19:10,759 sometimes I would get or Michael would 386 00:19:19,419 --> 00:19:16,190 get translated the smell into a form of 387 00:19:22,509 --> 00:19:19,429 information let's say that I smell a 388 00:19:25,629 --> 00:19:22,519 cigarette smoke and then suddenly in a 389 00:19:29,259 --> 00:19:25,639 couple of seconds I read a sentence in 390 00:19:32,109 --> 00:19:29,269 my mind and I can translate it into 391 00:19:33,969 --> 00:19:32,119 words you know so cigarette smoke will 392 00:19:37,209 --> 00:19:33,979 get translated into a piece of 393 00:19:40,899 --> 00:19:37,219 information it's the same with different 394 00:19:43,030 --> 00:19:40,909 tastes you taste sweet honey on your 395 00:19:45,610 --> 00:19:43,040 tongue right you you taste 396 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:45,620 sugar on your tongue and you go like 397 00:19:51,340 --> 00:19:48,470 okay I'm not eating right now why is it 398 00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:51,350 that I'm smelling sure damn tasted sugar 399 00:19:58,690 --> 00:19:55,520 or honey whatever and it's different 400 00:20:04,090 --> 00:19:58,700 kind of entities around you that are 401 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:04,100 talking to you by taste smell now 402 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:07,850 sometimes you can detect with your skin 403 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:11,210 at a distance so what I'm saying is that 404 00:20:16,030 --> 00:20:13,520 you're out of body you're in the room 405 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:16,040 out of body your self ended up on the 406 00:20:23,050 --> 00:20:19,430 ceiling your physical body is sitting on 407 00:20:25,810 --> 00:20:23,060 the chair right and like let's say 408 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:25,820 there's a there's a wooden chair in your 409 00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:28,810 room right and you're you wonder like 410 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:33,320 this chair is it made of metal or wood 411 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:37,490 right you can you can detect it by the 412 00:20:45,460 --> 00:20:41,930 skin at distance so you can tell by your 413 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:45,470 skin your skin is a scanner it can read 414 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:48,290 and you can tell okay there's a chair in 415 00:20:52,930 --> 00:20:50,810 my room and it's made of metal 416 00:20:55,950 --> 00:20:52,940 you know it's plastic whatever it's made 417 00:21:00,430 --> 00:20:55,960 of wood so this is what's happening now 418 00:21:04,090 --> 00:21:00,440 now also when you are out of body and 419 00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:04,100 when you experience the high levels of 420 00:21:12,430 --> 00:21:07,600 auto body experience right then you can 421 00:21:15,910 --> 00:21:12,440 travel vast distances you can end up you 422 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:15,920 know being on the moon on the Mars you 423 00:21:21,730 --> 00:21:18,530 can yeah all kinds of different things 424 00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:21,740 so basically also when you're 425 00:21:29,050 --> 00:21:25,790 out-of-body you can meet your guides or 426 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:29,060 advisers and you can be taught a lot of 427 00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:33,320 lessons but there's one but we should 428 00:21:41,380 --> 00:21:37,520 not mix out-of-body experiences with the 429 00:21:44,350 --> 00:21:41,390 so called lucid dreaming or astral 430 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:44,360 travel now when you're asked for 431 00:21:52,030 --> 00:21:49,520 traveling you do it while asleep when 432 00:21:55,140 --> 00:21:52,040 you're out-of-body right when you're 433 00:21:59,370 --> 00:21:55,150 experienced a full blown antibiotics 434 00:22:03,770 --> 00:21:59,380 you are totally awake and this is 435 00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:03,780 happening on the full consciousness ya 436 00:22:10,770 --> 00:22:07,390 know what what pattern does your husband 437 00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:10,780 feel is going on when he's like unable 438 00:22:16,380 --> 00:22:14,080 to control these out-of-body experiences 439 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:16,390 well what seems to be going on for him 440 00:22:23,159 --> 00:22:20,799 okay well my Michael is a good 441 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:23,169 experience right he has the highest 442 00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:26,290 level top auto body experiences so he 443 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:29,679 would get out of body without noticing 444 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:32,320 it right so let's say and then I'll tell 445 00:22:35,970 --> 00:22:34,090 you about the lower versions of auto 446 00:22:39,299 --> 00:22:35,980 body that I'm experiences and what's 447 00:22:41,970 --> 00:22:39,309 happening the symptoms that you you know 448 00:22:44,940 --> 00:22:41,980 there's a lot of sense in symptoms but 449 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:44,950 when Michael gets out of body right he 450 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,679 can be walking on the street and let's 451 00:22:53,010 --> 00:22:49,600 say that we're walking on the street 452 00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:53,020 there's a and and I'm giving you a 453 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:55,120 specific example that happens a couple 454 00:23:01,560 --> 00:22:57,250 of years ago you know we were walking on 455 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:01,570 the street and there was a girl and it 456 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:03,610 happened to be in Bratislava Slovakia 457 00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,250 and the girl was pregnant right very 458 00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:08,799 pretty attractive girl and we passed a 459 00:23:15,020 --> 00:23:12,100 girl and Michael immediately got out of 460 00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:15,030 body because he was kind of like 461 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:18,910 attracted by the energy of a girl so 462 00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:22,240 it's kind of like the energy forcefully 463 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:25,390 took him out of body but he ended up in 464 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:29,890 her body in her physical body he was 465 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:36,010 able to feel what she felt he was able 466 00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:42,190 to feel the belly the the breasts full 467 00:23:53,370 --> 00:23:49,780 of smack from you no no no it's funny 468 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:53,380 because I can tell when he is when he 469 00:23:58,049 --> 00:23:55,450 leaves the body or when his auto body 470 00:24:01,650 --> 00:23:58,059 already I can tell because his movement 471 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:01,660 becomes robotic kind of and his eyes are 472 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:03,730 half closed so I knew it was out of 473 00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:05,470 money and he told me you know Julie I 474 00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:07,500 just experienced what 475 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:10,470 means to be pregnant so he's a male how 476 00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:13,830 can you express it this is what happened 477 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:16,950 but again as I said there are different 478 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:21,300 symptoms of of you know when you 479 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:24,140 typically get out of body you can have 480 00:24:32,210 --> 00:24:29,360 bodily vestibular and proprioceptive 481 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:32,220 perception which means that there's a 482 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:34,950 there's a presence of variety of 483 00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:38,310 physical sensation I don't mean it 484 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:39,750 refuge Julie but we're just about ready 485 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:41,250 to go to our bottom of the hour break 486 00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:46,050 and we'll be right back okay right well 487 00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:47,700 it's good to be back with Julie and I 488 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:49,800 don't know Julie just for curiosity I 489 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:51,210 wonder why it's only happen to me twice 490 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:56,210 in all these years I wonder why why I 491 00:25:01,310 --> 00:24:59,010 just why I don't got it twice in all 492 00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:01,320 these many years why you've only have 493 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:04,580 them Oh Bo well as I said you know 494 00:25:10,970 --> 00:25:08,240 Autobot experience is something that 495 00:25:14,420 --> 00:25:10,980 happens you know naturally and 496 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:14,430 spontaneously and organically and you 497 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:18,450 cannot help it but again there are some 498 00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:23,190 people who would practice and who would 499 00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:26,310 go for work ships that would teach them 500 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:29,100 how to get out of body but no I never 501 00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:31,170 try to do that but I'm just saying that 502 00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:33,390 I just wondering why if I was disposed 503 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:34,860 to do it I've only had to with all these 504 00:25:41,050 --> 00:25:38,370 years no but you know it's because as I 505 00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:41,060 said it happened to you because you 506 00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:43,980 automatically and naturally you know 507 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:46,800 reached certain frequency that would 508 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:50,490 automatically you know get your body so 509 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:52,770 basically in the future you might be 510 00:25:57,530 --> 00:25:55,230 able to you know attain the same 511 00:25:59,780 --> 00:25:57,540 frequency that would you know get your 512 00:26:03,170 --> 00:25:59,790 other body who knows but again the 513 00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:03,180 frequency that you need in order to be 514 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:05,340 able to the outer body you can basically 515 00:26:10,670 --> 00:26:07,710 also force it by different techniques 516 00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:10,680 and we talked about it so there's a lot 517 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:14,340 of oh that's okay it was exotic enough I 518 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:15,929 don't want to force it but I want to 519 00:26:20,090 --> 00:26:17,460 mention the book again it's I've seen it 520 00:26:20,649 --> 00:26:20,100 tomorrow and it's on Amazon isn't it it 521 00:26:30,009 --> 00:26:20,659 is 522 00:26:33,879 --> 00:26:30,019 sellers but it's under a different name 523 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:33,889 okay I use my you know art name suddenly 524 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:35,570 whatever you want to call it and it's 525 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:42,529 under Irish cursed Irish curse k r s t k 526 00:26:48,099 --> 00:26:46,070 RS T now the reason I you know I use a 527 00:26:52,749 --> 00:26:48,109 different different name was that 528 00:26:55,869 --> 00:26:52,759 Michael asked me to do that because he's 529 00:27:01,330 --> 00:26:55,879 not ready to come out of the closet yet 530 00:27:04,269 --> 00:27:01,340 you know he has been you know it's for 531 00:27:07,180 --> 00:27:04,279 him it's kind of like you know I I've 532 00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:07,190 written the book in Slovak okay first 533 00:27:13,210 --> 00:27:09,710 and now I have translated into English 534 00:27:16,419 --> 00:27:13,220 and since February it's it's available 535 00:27:18,669 --> 00:27:16,429 on Amazon but since its English Michael 536 00:27:22,239 --> 00:27:18,679 says you know Julia the book talks about 537 00:27:23,469 --> 00:27:22,249 me let's just let's just do it but can 538 00:27:28,749 --> 00:27:23,479 you use a different different different 539 00:27:32,139 --> 00:27:28,759 last name personal and special hey you 540 00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:32,149 know it is and there's a much more to it 541 00:27:39,849 --> 00:27:35,960 because he basically has been through a 542 00:27:43,810 --> 00:27:39,859 lot of you know during his auto body art 543 00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:43,820 about her experiences hedges have seen 544 00:27:51,399 --> 00:27:46,909 real have been really crazy crazy stuff 545 00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:51,409 and he and you know I have been and it's 546 00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,039 funny because I have been writing a 547 00:28:00,700 --> 00:27:58,159 diary about some important things and 548 00:28:03,219 --> 00:28:00,710 stuff that he was able to seen out of 549 00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:03,229 body and I started writing the diary 550 00:28:09,879 --> 00:28:06,769 back in 1998 so you can imagine how many 551 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:09,889 how many pages are all the diary I've 552 00:28:21,609 --> 00:28:16,399 filled in to some extent to have an 553 00:28:24,879 --> 00:28:21,619 out-of-body or I think that yes but 554 00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:24,889 again it's about being able to attain 555 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:28,820 certain frequency if you vibrate at 556 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:32,950 certain level then yes everybody can 557 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:36,159 do that can leave the body but you know 558 00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:39,279 the all human beings have the potential 559 00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:42,159 of being able to attain the certain 560 00:28:47,639 --> 00:28:44,260 frequency that will eventually get you 561 00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:47,649 out of body but not everyone is able to 562 00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:50,799 do that all right so yes it's something 563 00:28:57,980 --> 00:28:54,100 that is there it's a human potential and 564 00:29:01,919 --> 00:28:57,990 it's up to people whether they choose 565 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:01,929 feel certain way a certain way think 566 00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:05,289 certain way in order for them to you 567 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:07,960 know to be able to get out of body so 568 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:12,250 it's a it's more or less about the 569 00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:15,100 frequency and you know whether or not 570 00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:19,960 here I go to attend if you're speaking 571 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:21,700 about some of the dangers of people 572 00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:25,840 forcing it what you go over there what 573 00:29:29,129 --> 00:29:27,309 you're talking to us so it's turn the 574 00:29:35,159 --> 00:29:29,139 brake it's important because so many 575 00:29:40,879 --> 00:29:35,169 people money off from teaching well the 576 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:40,889 risks are that if you get out of body 577 00:29:49,710 --> 00:29:44,769 for if you practice to get out of body 578 00:29:53,629 --> 00:29:49,720 and your other energy bodies are not 579 00:29:56,879 --> 00:29:53,639 prepared for that you can get hurt 580 00:30:01,889 --> 00:29:56,889 energetically and I'll explain human 581 00:30:10,289 --> 00:30:01,899 body at least to my knowledge okay human 582 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:10,299 body has as many as as 12 it's 11 11 583 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:14,409 bodies to it physical emotional mind 584 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:19,120 body astral body light body dark body 585 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:22,510 it's like an onion you know and you peel 586 00:30:30,090 --> 00:30:26,409 the onion off it has the the skin has 587 00:30:33,690 --> 00:30:30,100 like 12 differently a human body has 12 588 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:33,700 different layers right and the most 589 00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,010 highest sensitive layers 590 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:39,279 okay the highest energetic bodies they 591 00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:43,929 are made of very very special energy 592 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:45,700 it's like lick 593 00:30:52,259 --> 00:30:48,730 with light or it's like say my ass it's 594 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:52,269 etheric stuff it's not even physical 595 00:30:59,220 --> 00:30:55,090 dense matter so to speak right but 596 00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:59,230 highest body are made of of liquid light 597 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:02,080 they're made of plasma whether it's in 598 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:05,230 the plasma active plasma Hydra plasma 599 00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:08,710 thermal plasma and these are bodies that 600 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:11,700 are very very sensitive to frequencies 601 00:31:19,259 --> 00:31:15,370 both to vibrations to electromagnetic 602 00:31:24,330 --> 00:31:19,269 oscillations right now if you get out of 603 00:31:27,299 --> 00:31:24,340 body you disturb other higher bodies in 604 00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:27,309 your body if this if this makes sense 605 00:31:34,139 --> 00:31:30,880 and that's where the risks are because 606 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:34,149 and also sometimes when you had just get 607 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:37,809 out of body unprepared you end up in d4 608 00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:41,049 astral level when you are in astral 609 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:45,070 level I mean there are many many 610 00:31:55,549 --> 00:31:51,070 entities that are negative oh yes and 611 00:31:59,129 --> 00:31:55,559 they can they can you know what they can 612 00:32:03,560 --> 00:31:59,139 automatically via resonance resonance 613 00:32:06,899 --> 00:32:03,570 right resonantly automatically like a 614 00:32:09,299 --> 00:32:06,909 magnet they can just suck on your body 615 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:09,309 and they would never leave you come back 616 00:32:18,810 --> 00:32:12,880 into your body with all this stuff from 617 00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:18,820 astral plane yeah I want to come with 618 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:22,120 all the garbage and there and all that 619 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:24,010 things will start happening to you and 620 00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:25,360 you would not understand why is this 621 00:32:33,450 --> 00:32:28,750 happening to me so you when you live the 622 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:33,460 body you have to be ready okay you have 623 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:37,330 all of your but all of the layers of 624 00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:41,470 your body I have to be ready it's not 625 00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:43,960 just like you want to be hot you want to 626 00:32:50,430 --> 00:32:47,740 be in you take a course about astral 627 00:32:52,259 --> 00:32:50,440 travel or out-of-body experiences but 628 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:52,269 what do you do next 629 00:32:56,899 --> 00:32:55,510 you know it's not funny and this is you 630 00:32:59,989 --> 00:32:56,909 know so you should not do 631 00:33:01,969 --> 00:32:59,999 that unless it you know guys when it 632 00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:01,979 starts happening to you naturally or 633 00:33:07,729 --> 00:33:04,080 organically it means there's a reason 634 00:33:10,849 --> 00:33:07,739 for it you already go for that every 635 00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:10,859 single time I am totally getting lesson 636 00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:11,609 so I get it 637 00:33:15,739 --> 00:33:13,590 so what would you call those lower-level 638 00:33:18,019 --> 00:33:15,749 entities would you call them demons that 639 00:33:21,889 --> 00:33:18,029 are attaching to people you know they 640 00:33:25,159 --> 00:33:21,899 are all kinds of you know you can call 641 00:33:27,769 --> 00:33:25,169 them but not necessarily do it's let's 642 00:33:29,719 --> 00:33:27,779 not play with the words here it's like 643 00:33:30,859 --> 00:33:29,729 something you know it doesn't matter 644 00:33:34,899 --> 00:33:30,869 what we call them 645 00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:34,909 what matters is what energy they emit 646 00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:38,940 what frequencies they emit if they emit 647 00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:41,849 harmful frequencies obviously they gonna 648 00:33:46,879 --> 00:33:44,519 hurt you what are they demons or they're 649 00:33:49,339 --> 00:33:46,889 ghosts they're sometimes there are just 650 00:33:52,609 --> 00:33:49,349 ghosts sometimes there are just simple 651 00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:52,619 ghosts you know if someone died on a 652 00:33:59,869 --> 00:33:56,460 physical plane and they would go the the 653 00:34:03,289 --> 00:33:59,879 the soul the so-called soul would leave 654 00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:03,299 the physical body sometimes people are 655 00:34:10,129 --> 00:34:07,320 dying not prepared suddenly you know in 656 00:34:13,809 --> 00:34:10,139 a car crash and those people's souls 657 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:13,819 will get stuck in the middle of nowhere 658 00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,010 Randy in the form of the girls they 659 00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:20,639 would be circling around and they don't 660 00:34:26,839 --> 00:34:23,549 know what's happening to them and they 661 00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:26,849 would suck on people's physical body 662 00:34:33,889 --> 00:34:30,779 right they can it's a so-called position 663 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,899 and it's real it's not funny you can get 664 00:34:42,649 --> 00:34:36,000 possessed by a lot of ghosts when you're 665 00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:42,659 out-of-body unprepared ok yeah so yeah 666 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:49,619 it's not funny yeah yeah I see what you 667 00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:51,510 mean it's it's fascinating too because I 668 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,480 just you know people pray in different 669 00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:56,879 ways they meditate and it seems that 670 00:35:01,329 --> 00:34:59,400 I've heard a lot of people suddenly find 671 00:35:04,220 --> 00:35:01,339 themselves in a different plane of 672 00:35:06,769 --> 00:35:04,230 understanding of love and and I'm like 673 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:06,779 well that's a pretty neat way to you 674 00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:07,970 know reach a 675 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:09,590 level understanding through prayer and 676 00:35:15,099 --> 00:35:12,290 meditation yet prayer contemplation 677 00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:15,109 meditation it's something it's positive 678 00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:17,240 because what do you do when you pray 679 00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:20,060 you're not angry you're giving Allah 680 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,190 when you pray you know I mean your 681 00:35:27,339 --> 00:35:24,400 feelings are full of mercy love 682 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:27,349 forgiveness and that's a good stuff but 683 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:29,890 if you get out of body totally angry or 684 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:33,530 you know it negatively thinking and 685 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:36,710 stuff you have then you attract the 686 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:39,650 negative frequencies and that's when you 687 00:35:43,870 --> 00:35:41,810 can get possessed yeah like those people 688 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:43,880 that try to escape I know people who 689 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:46,490 just try to escape and take drugs and 690 00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,250 meditate oh yeah oh yeah yeah that's how 691 00:36:01,420 --> 00:35:57,920 it's that's that's what it is yeah 692 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:01,430 so mm-hmm that's exactly what it is yeah 693 00:36:07,570 --> 00:36:04,910 so yeah so raising our vibrations can 694 00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:07,580 really open our hearts our minds our 695 00:36:13,150 --> 00:36:10,070 souls and different experiences without 696 00:36:15,130 --> 00:36:13,160 even trying so keeping something keeping 697 00:36:17,950 --> 00:36:15,140 a positive attitude a positive way of 698 00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:17,960 being it we could get more lessons from 699 00:36:25,570 --> 00:36:22,910 higher powers oh yes you can but it's 700 00:36:27,930 --> 00:36:25,580 about and you know it's about you know 701 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:27,940 sometimes you know people would say 702 00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:31,130 positive thinking but I'm saying not 703 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:33,820 positive thinking I'm saying positive 704 00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:36,710 feelings positive feelings because guess 705 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:37,160 what 706 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:41,150 it's the feeling who would would give 707 00:36:47,859 --> 00:36:45,200 birth to a thought you know you say Oh 708 00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:47,869 thinking thinking and thought but what 709 00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:50,270 is their prior thought I'll tell you 710 00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:53,060 there is a feeling and then feeling 711 00:37:01,630 --> 00:36:58,970 turns into emotion and emotion where our 712 00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:01,640 last break I don't mean to we're just 713 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:07,190 well it's great having Julian with us in 714 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:08,850 the book once again as I've seen it 715 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:12,210 tomorrow and that's on Amazon and Julia 716 00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:15,450 are you are you got any events coming up 717 00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:18,060 or planning any tours in the United 718 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:20,700 States or anything like that or actually 719 00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:25,410 you know I am I just came back from not 720 00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:29,670 just but I've been to Ocean City where 721 00:37:33,110 --> 00:37:30,660 my mother-in-law's 722 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:33,120 I'll live unlike lives in Washington DC 723 00:37:40,330 --> 00:37:34,110 it right now 724 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:40,340 so I've been in Maryland yeah Maryland 725 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:46,410 yeah and I attended the in the yell yell 726 00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:50,690 University there was the conference the 727 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:54,180 conference that I you know I have I 728 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:56,490 reported a speech or I had a speech on 729 00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:01,200 out about experiences and right now I'm 730 00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:03,300 just her I'm just having my you know 731 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:06,150 out-of-body experiences workshops here 732 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:09,930 in Czech Republic and Slovakia and maybe 733 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:13,110 you know maybe I never give it a thought 734 00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:16,410 but you know it wouldn't hurt for me to 735 00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:19,020 you know go to America and you know get 736 00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:21,300 some chores or get some work ships and 737 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:24,900 in the future but mostly I just get 738 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:27,900 connected with the people in America you 739 00:38:39,830 --> 00:38:29,730 know why you've got some new fans 740 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,840 because the chatroom is if if was if 741 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,000 whatever psychics are experiencing how 742 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,880 does that fit into what you're speaking 743 00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:47,520 of like how two psychics do they kind of 744 00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:50,720 somehow leave their body or now they 745 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:53,880 yeah I mean they might and but they 746 00:39:00,800 --> 00:38:57,890 might they can but it's not necessary 747 00:39:02,930 --> 00:39:00,810 prerequisite in order to be a psychic to 748 00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:02,940 have an out-of-body experience you can 749 00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:06,240 give a psychic reading without I mean 750 00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:09,270 from within your body it is that you are 751 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:13,910 able you are able vibrationally or or 752 00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:15,540 vibrational to 753 00:39:22,820 --> 00:39:19,950 connect to certain frequencies where you 754 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:22,830 get the information out so what I'm 755 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:25,650 saying when you are psychic and someone 756 00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:29,370 asks you for something you do not have 757 00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:32,070 to get out of body in order to get the 758 00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:36,270 reply you just can't see the answer in 759 00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:41,100 your mind in the form of short words the 760 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:45,300 whole different information now I know 761 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:47,970 psychics who would just you would ask 762 00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:50,250 them something and they would tell you 763 00:39:55,460 --> 00:39:51,480 give me a second 764 00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:55,470 and in half a minute they would see 765 00:40:02,870 --> 00:39:58,880 within their minds or brains whole 766 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:02,880 sentences different words that they can 767 00:40:08,570 --> 00:40:05,490 put the words together and make sense 768 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:08,580 some of them would or some of them would 769 00:40:15,350 --> 00:40:11,730 get readings through their belly and it 770 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:15,360 works guys because in your belly you if 771 00:40:22,490 --> 00:40:18,210 you are connected you know where your 772 00:40:26,110 --> 00:40:22,500 you mythical chord is and stuff so below 773 00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:26,120 a little bit below there's an energetic 774 00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:29,880 Center which is connected with the 775 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:33,720 Kundalini Center at the tailbone right 776 00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:37,440 on on your back and some some psychic 777 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:40,950 would just get information directly from 778 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:45,210 your belly in form of different yeah in 779 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:49,200 form of different symbols metaphors some 780 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:51,660 psychics would just see symbols you ask 781 00:41:01,100 --> 00:40:55,970 them something and they would see like 782 00:41:04,610 --> 00:41:01,110 rain or woods or water and out of these 783 00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:04,620 symbols they can give you information so 784 00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:07,380 now I'm in psychics not necessarily they 785 00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:09,420 have to live the body in order to get 786 00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:12,390 information there are different kind of 787 00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:17,760 people can perceive differently and they 788 00:41:24,890 --> 00:41:22,200 can read energy signature they can even 789 00:41:27,339 --> 00:41:24,900 get information directly from the 790 00:41:30,799 --> 00:41:27,349 cellular level 791 00:41:35,989 --> 00:41:30,809 failure yet because each cell in the 792 00:41:40,579 --> 00:41:35,999 human body has information within them 793 00:41:44,059 --> 00:41:40,589 stored it's the memory set the so called 794 00:41:47,779 --> 00:41:44,069 cell memory and some people can work 795 00:41:50,509 --> 00:41:47,789 with the cell memory and upload the 796 00:41:51,919 --> 00:41:50,519 information directly from the South so 797 00:41:55,489 --> 00:41:51,929 it's different part of it 798 00:41:59,359 --> 00:41:55,499 well because consciousness as such does 799 00:42:02,779 --> 00:41:59,369 not sit in your brain it is just spread 800 00:42:06,709 --> 00:42:02,789 throughout your body from top of your 801 00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:06,719 head until your feet I mean put the 802 00:42:09,439 --> 00:42:09,089 thumbs of your on there yeah on your 803 00:42:13,189 --> 00:42:09,449 feet 804 00:42:16,669 --> 00:42:13,199 so it's everywhere it's in your cells 805 00:42:20,259 --> 00:42:16,679 and it does not just the brain but 806 00:42:22,509 --> 00:42:20,269 mostly the heart and the belly that 807 00:42:26,389 --> 00:42:22,519 participates in getting the information 808 00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:26,399 mostly belly and the heart the brain is 809 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:29,849 the is you know it's just a servant to 810 00:42:41,959 --> 00:42:32,729 the heart and turn belly yeah this is 811 00:42:44,689 --> 00:42:41,969 how it works a lot of people on this 812 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:44,699 topic and you have the most in-depth and 813 00:42:55,749 --> 00:42:53,249 unique me and Kevin are just in awe 814 00:43:01,519 --> 00:42:55,759 listening to you because we're usually 815 00:43:03,019 --> 00:43:01,529 like look and I didn't even start I 816 00:43:04,999 --> 00:43:03,029 didn't know and start talking I mean 817 00:43:07,819 --> 00:43:05,009 they're so yeah there's so much 818 00:43:11,809 --> 00:43:07,829 information to be covered it's just like 819 00:43:13,009 --> 00:43:11,819 you know we love it oh well yeah still 820 00:43:14,779 --> 00:43:13,019 sounds like you better not mess with 821 00:43:17,389 --> 00:43:14,789 something that you don't know though oh 822 00:43:19,429 --> 00:43:17,399 yeah oh yeah it's yeah you have to be 823 00:43:22,579 --> 00:43:19,439 really careful and you're the first one 824 00:43:24,979 --> 00:43:22,589 to not try to sell teaching this like 825 00:43:28,819 --> 00:43:24,989 come on let's do it you're giving a 826 00:43:31,699 --> 00:43:28,829 warning like hold on oh yes you'd rather 827 00:43:33,969 --> 00:43:31,709 be careful then go for the cash and and 828 00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:33,979 you know why because it's not my 829 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:37,169 commercial mind talk and it's my worm 830 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:38,770 heart talking that yeah 831 00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:41,710 that's why it is you know that's why I'm 832 00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:45,700 varying what your the first well thank 833 00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:50,190 you okay so are there any more questions 834 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:52,630 well the one thing I did have with the 835 00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:54,730 Frank thing was a very positive deal it 836 00:43:58,140 --> 00:43:56,020 was like yeah we'll be here when you get 837 00:44:00,810 --> 00:43:58,150 back I mean just kind of a New Jersey 838 00:44:02,609 --> 00:44:00,820 way of just saying yes sorry but I mean 839 00:44:04,410 --> 00:44:02,619 no but I mean it was kind of reassuring 840 00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:04,420 in a way I mean nothing I had was 841 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:05,860 negative him when I was looking at suing 842 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:09,690 me on the bed it was not but not I 843 00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:12,400 didn't thankfully I didn't any negative 844 00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:15,310 experiences on actually yeah out-of-body 845 00:44:22,290 --> 00:44:19,300 experiences they can have both well they 846 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:22,300 can have neutral effects so there are no 847 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:24,850 emotions attached you know everything is 848 00:44:31,020 --> 00:44:27,700 you know like normal but they can be 849 00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:31,030 positively or negatively oriented so to 850 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:33,670 speak so yeah people can get lots of 851 00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,119 emotions positive or negative there can 852 00:44:42,210 --> 00:44:39,760 be fear attached like for the first time 853 00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:42,220 you leave the body you go like oh my god 854 00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:44,350 what's happening I want to get back so 855 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:47,740 if it were not for the fear you could 856 00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:49,650 leave you could continue your 857 00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:52,030 consciousness could leave through the 858 00:45:02,250 --> 00:44:56,040 wall through the closed door and you can 859 00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:02,260 continue elsewhere leaving okay there's 860 00:45:07,410 --> 00:45:04,420 been at least two instances of 861 00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:07,420 out-of-body that I had then I left my 862 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:13,960 footprint oh yeah oh yeah yeah it's no 863 00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:16,090 it's good good that you asked I could 864 00:45:22,590 --> 00:45:19,510 tell you I mean now people can leave the 865 00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:22,600 body and different and come back in 866 00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,060 different different forms now you can 867 00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:28,480 leave the body through your feet and you 868 00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:32,830 can watch yourself leaving now you can 869 00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:35,020 leave you can leave your body through 870 00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:38,460 your head you can leave your body 871 00:45:43,710 --> 00:45:40,780 horizontally you can leave your body 872 00:45:47,099 --> 00:45:43,720 vertically and you can watch yourself 873 00:45:49,870 --> 00:45:47,109 both leave the body and come back now 874 00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:49,880 you can come back to your body 875 00:45:56,020 --> 00:45:53,960 backwards it's like like you are let's 876 00:45:59,530 --> 00:45:56,030 say you're laying on the back coming 877 00:46:03,520 --> 00:45:59,540 back to your body you can face you can 878 00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:03,530 face your face okay on the laying on the 879 00:46:08,590 --> 00:46:05,600 bed and coming you know 880 00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:08,600 like facing yourself but you can be 881 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:13,400 coming like backwards like but to leave 882 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:16,130 a physical footprint I've done it twice 883 00:46:24,570 --> 00:46:22,250 like when we walk going up the wall wait 884 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:24,580 a minute what do you mean the blueing 885 00:46:29,110 --> 00:46:27,530 physical footprint my feet going up to 886 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:29,120 what like footprints on the outside of 887 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:32,090 my window my yes you can do you can do 888 00:46:36,610 --> 00:46:34,490 it in certain cases you know went 889 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:36,620 because when you live the body whatever 890 00:46:43,180 --> 00:46:39,440 leaves your body right yes sir has 891 00:46:46,510 --> 00:46:43,190 certain density to it and density is 892 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:46,520 about frequency so if your density was 893 00:46:51,970 --> 00:46:49,010 higher when you love your body 894 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:51,980 yeah that's when you live the footprints 895 00:46:57,370 --> 00:46:55,130 or other marks okay because because 896 00:47:03,630 --> 00:46:57,380 whatever you well whatever is living is 897 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:06,490 look that's how bilocation works you 898 00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,530 know when you buy long I guess 899 00:47:12,370 --> 00:47:10,880 Julie I tell you what we've enjoyed 900 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:12,380 having you and I guess we'll send you a 901 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:21,070 pleasure to be with you guys and it was 902 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,210 a great show and although you guys know 903 00:47:30,850 --> 00:47:25,280 maybe we can continue some sometime in 904 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:30,860 the future thank you so much okay great 905 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:41,930 thank you oh I know obviously you know I 906 00:47:45,370 --> 00:47:43,730 don't know I knew I was kind of 907 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:45,380 suspicious TIFF you know you've met be 908 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:47,470 something you're not comfortable with it 909 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:50,810 but but anyway next week we've got Donna 910 00:47:59,170 --> 00:47:52,610 moss and the week after that we've got 911 00:48:01,440 --> 00:47:59,180 your buddy Joshua Warren hanging around 912 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:01,450 Puerto Rico having a good time Beach 913 00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:02,690 place 914 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:06,319 vibe luckily so he's okay oh we did okay 915 00:48:12,099 --> 00:48:09,770 guys I have to disconnect my daughter 916 00:48:14,380 --> 00:48:12,109 woke up it's 4:00 in the morning the 917 00:48:17,859 --> 00:48:14,390 morning so I have to put I have to put a 918 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:17,869 bag in there so okay guys I love you 919 00:48:27,609 --> 00:48:21,530 take care and don't know flu know if I 920 00:48:30,339 --> 00:48:27,619 don't want to fool around me I know I'm 921 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:30,349 just kidding okay guys okay like you bye 922 00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:35,450 bye bye well I don't know I'm sick of 923 00:48:38,620 --> 00:48:36,950 the flu myself I didn't think I could 924 00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:38,630 even get sick this is weird 925 00:48:51,250 --> 00:48:48,750 well that's enough it's close enough 926 00:48:55,329 --> 00:48:51,260 report of the that time o'clock were